Merck Manual

.REBEL

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Many has indicated certain cures were impossible, i hope this manual helps with keeping your beagles and animals, in general , well and healthy.If this site does not pull up corectly i will later research why and eventual get it right, so everyone can learn and hope fully keep their beagles and animals in top health..
https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional
 
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.REBEL

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Many has indicated certain cures were impossible, i hope this manual helps with keeping your beagles and animals, in general , well and healthy.If this site does not pull up correctly i will later research why and eventual get it right, so everyone can learn and hope fully keep their beagles and animals in top health..
https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional
How ever it comes up check the alphabetical section at the top..A to Z.. and investigate other sections, in the past beaglers have destroyed their whole kennel due to Brucellosis, and when i said there is a cure, many said i was wrong, but i cured my hounds many, many years ago with some of the same medication given in this manual. Enjoy and Happy beagling, to..ALL!!!
 

andrew

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I would bet you that the Merck Manual isn’t looked at by most houndsmen. I have looked up ailments that affect family or myself, but I can say I’ve never looked further. BTW, were you aware that the site link you provided has another link to a manual for Veterinarians? https://www.merckvetmanual.com/
 

.REBEL

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I would bet you that the Merck Manual isn’t looked at by most hounds-men. I have looked up ailments that affect family or myself, but I can say I’ve never looked further. BTW, were you aware that the site link you provided has another link to a manual for Veterinarians? https://www.merckvetmanual.com/
I am aware of other manuals, foreign and USA manuals, but in the past the Merck Manual has proven..to me..to be extra helpful when it comes to animal medications..and most the time, it has simple to follow instructions on medicating animals. I have formulas i created from my herbs and from other studies, but i felt others would pay more attention if the information came from a manual that has dealt with animal medication for a long time.For the most part, especially those that have beagles, had rather experience from their own mistakes, rather than from manuals and others that has vast experience with their failures, and attempting to prevent others from making some of the same mistakes. The more i try to help others, the more i learn, others had rather have tragedy in their lives than to listen and analyze what another may have learned from their failures.Why do i care, beats the heck out of me, but gradually i am caring less about the human factor, but more and more about the animals well-being in the hands of those, thoughtless hounds/animal people.
There are many hounds/beagle websites, but lets take the beagle sites..what good are they, how do they contribute to better the rabbit dog in general? The majority of beagle owners have no idea how to breed to improve the beagle as a rabbit dog, yet they breed and produce pups that they sell, give away or let others have as pets, and the cycle continues to destroy the rabbit beagle and flood the market with beagles that do not even make good pets,less lone a fair rabbit dog!!!Well enough of a history lesson, but expect in the future to hear less from me, and if you want anything from me, in the future ask, i may answer and than i may not..Happy hunting to "ALL" !!!!!REBEL
 

andrew

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if you want anything from me, in the future ask, i may answer and than i may not.." !!!!!REBEL
A lot of negative comments about everyone else and how they fail to produce a quality beagle?
If you have created a better rabbit dog then where is it at?
 

.REBEL

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A lot of negative comments about everyone else and how they fail to produce a quality beagle?
If you have created a better rabbit dog then where is it at?
In my kennel and in the kennel of those that have or have had them in theirs..there is no negatives about the WHITENER genetics,just ask but ask those that have had or have them..such as Mike Cagle (armyboxer) or Mike Russell of Ohio, or Larry (Blue Beagle)Tn, which visits several beagle sites and on Facebook.
I will say, as you indicate in your comments..there is more negatives about beaglers and their hounds and methods of ..attempting to produce better rabbit dogs..than there are positives..and i say the hunt, nose and speed, is the most negative, many want medium speed hounds or slower, due to their hounds not having the nose, so they breed hoping to get the foot and nose to compliment each other.I could but will not, write a book on the negatives of the rabbit dogs and their owners.
The difference between truth and fiction is that fiction has to be believable, and FICTION is what the majority of beaglers are all about!!
Now you ask, where is my bloodline, and i give you a couple names, and there are many more. May i ask where is yours and all these other great hounds?? YES..i am sure there are others with great hounds, and a very few great houndsmen, but until i see their's in action, i can only witness to what i have saw and produced, the last fifty years or so, which is others i have ran with, Judged in AKC and ARHA trials, and with what is in my kennel, which produces in like kind...Don't sing it, bring it...Lets have a get together, come one come all, and bring your best and put it down with all the others, and let the hounds speak for them selves...deal???? The best of the best, grade and registered hounds alike, no discrimination, as long as it is a beagle, and we will have Certified Judges there to certify it being a beagle, can we agree on that?
 

.REBEL

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What is sad, me, you, or the beagle world, or you find what i have to say and inform others about..YES it is sad others in the sport of beagling keep on producing more culls than sure nuff rabbit dogs..Now will you be explaining your explanation of sad, or do you want others to form their own opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

andrew

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I can explain what is sad. With all your knowledge, if few accept it, then how will it benefit them? And you said even if you are asked, you may not respond. It is sad to have knowledge that will help someone, but decline to help. I know your thoughts, they are why bother if they are not going to listen or appreciate it.

As for the best hound, it is best only in the eyes of the beholder. If somone likes a slower hound, or one that runs a different style, then Whitener hounds would not be their best. I don’t know if you ever told me your policies, but I would imagine you are selective about who gets one of your hounds. If someone tells you they like a slower hound, would you tell them that your bloodline would not be the best choice for them?

Unfortunately, from some of the messages we have exchanged, I understand the full Whitener bloodline was lost. I don’t believe you ever told me if your efforts to recover it were successful. You had spine surgery and other difficulties that got in the way. And many people who got your hounds, according to you, ruined the pure Whitener strain by outbreeding.

I surely hope you did not lose 25 years of hard work! I had hoped to visit you in Alabama. I was going to run hounds with you. Do you think for one minute that if I saw what I liked in your hounds when running that I wouldn’t praise them? Of course, I would. Watching them run would certainly give me a greater incentive to do that than you telling me how good they are. It is tthe question is do they run the way I like. I have to like them to want to feed them.
 

.REBEL

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I can explain what is sad. With all your knowledge, if few accept it, then how will it benefit them? And you said even if you are asked, you may not respond. It is sad to have knowledge that will help someone, but decline to help. I know your thoughts, they are why bother if they are not going to listen or appreciate it.

As for the best hound, it is best only in the eyes of the beholder. If somone likes a slower hound, or one that runs a different style, then Whitener hounds would not be their best. I don’t know if you ever told me your policies, but I would imagine you are selective about who gets one of your hounds. If someone tells you they like a slower hound, would you tell them that your bloodline would not be the best choice for them?

Unfortunately, from some of the messages we have exchanged, I understand the full Whitener bloodline was lost. I don’t believe you ever told me if your efforts to recover it were successful. You had spine surgery and other difficulties that got in the way. And many people who got your hounds, according to you, ruined the pure Whitener strain by outbreeding.

I surely hope you did not lose 25 years of hard work! I had hoped to visit you in Alabama. I was going to run hounds with you. Do you think for one minute that if I saw what I liked in your hounds when running that I wouldn’t praise them? Of course, I would. Watching them run would certainly give me a greater incentive to do that than you telling me how good they are. It is tthe question is do they run the way I like. I have to like them to want to feed them.
Sure it took me awhile and many miles traveled and many dollars to not lose what i had accomplished in 50 years of building my bloodline.You say if someone wants a slower hound or different hound, why would they want to out-cross to my bloodline, cause they want something my bloodline can inject in their hounds, might only be one or may be more of things they like in a hound, but has not been successful in accomplishing from other bloodlines.Yes i praise my hounds, but there are others that praise them much more...
 

.REBEL

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Really? Where are these people posting their praise?
Same place they are singing your praise....why not ask on Facebook and on your beagle site, and ask that anyone comments has ether had or ran with the WHITENER bloodline, and have them leave their names, it is obvious that you have been talking to others, that have no idea about the WHITENER bloodline..like your partner on this beagle site..Therefore sense you are questioning my bloodline, ask your question to others on face book..Daniel Hill was once looking for a pup rabbit dog to trial, he advertised on the internet and indicated travel and money was no problem, ut so far he had not came across one, i answered his add and told him i had exactly what he was in search of, he showed up and left with a pup he named Lill Jesse( name may be missed spelled) she was 3 months old and well started, he took her to an ARHA trial and won the trial with her, by time she was just over a year old she was Triple Champion in ARHA, and he posted her on his website and dedicate a whole section just for her..so you want answers to who has or have had my bloodline, just ask on FACEBOOK it draws a much larger crowd than the beagle board..i will be watching and once you have made your inquiry and gotten answers, i will expect an apology from you!!!
 
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andrew

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Same place they are singing your praise....why not ask on Facebook and on your beagle site, and ask that anyone comments has ether had or ran with the WHITENER bloodline, and have them leave their names, it is obvious that you have been talking to others, that have no idea about the WHITENER bloodline..like your partner on this beagle site..Therefore sense you are questioning my bloodline, ask your question to others on face book..Daniel Hill was once looking for a pup rabbit dog to trial, he advertised on the internet and indicated travel and money was no problem, ut so far he had not came across one, i answered his add and told him i had exactly what he was in search of, he showed up and left with a pup he named Lill Jesse( name may be missed spelled) she was 3 months old and well started, he took her to an ARHA trial and won the trial with her, by time she was just over a year old she was Triple Champion in ARHA, and he posted her on his website and dedicate a whole section just for her..so you want answers to who has or have had my bloodline, just ask on FACEBOOK it draws a much larger crowd than the beagle board..i will be watching and once you have made your inquiry and gotten answers, i will expect an apology from you!!!
I was only asking where your bloodline followiers are. It apparently offended you. I apologize. I am thinking you are missing what I meant by asking where are the Whitener people who offer praise? All the posts praising your line are a couple years old. No groups on FB? A person can create ten accounts on forums and FB , etc, make it look like 10 people posting praise. A few posts don’t prove anything. There are groups for bloodline followers on FB. Someone should start a group for Whitener hound owners. A good idea?
 

.REBEL

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I am not out to impress anyone with my hounds, no more than i am with my self.I think the people that know me, knows i do not run a personality contest. From the start of my Bloodline to the present hounds i have in my kennel. I have always breed beagles to be the best rabbit dogs on four feet, not for anything else.Now days and for the last few years , i only breed to keep my bloodline alive, if i ever have extra, there are those i know that has requested them.I have one policy and only one, and that is anyone i may place a pup with, receives a one year guaranty that it will please that person and make that person happy.Years past i have place many,many pups and a few hounds in the hands of others, that paid a premium price, and in all those years, only asked by one person to take a young hound back, reason being, each time the pup jumped a rabbit it would come back to him, he had made a companion with the pup, so when it jumped a rabbit it wanted it's companion to enjoy the chase with it. I sent the persons money back to him and had the young hound shipped to Loyd Cruse in Mo..knowing the pup would be a stranger to him, i explained the situation to Loyd and once he received the young hound and ran it we had a discussion about the young hound, Loyd informed me the pup never came back to him once it jumped a rabbit.So even that young hound was not a cull, it just considered the guy was another beagle, cause it was raised by this person and not with other beagles..
So i could care less if i ever place another pup with anyone, beagler or not, but i will be just as selective when i feel like i want my hounds, to produce a litter, as i have always been in the past.Therefore i am not out to prove anything to anyone, about me nor my hounds.I did not decide to get into beagles, to win favor with other beaglers, nor to win trials, which my bloodline has done many times over, so consider me not out to prove to anyone the ability of my hounds...but if anyone wants to know my ability to produce pups they can give a years guarantee with each and ever pup produced in their kennel, SIMPLE ..do NOT go outside your kennel,once you have a pair that suites you, cull viciously and once you have all the bad culled out of your choice of hounds, you can NOT get bad ,UNLESS you have bad!!!! The higher the COI the better your hounds will be!!!! History lesson over!! REBEL
 

andrew

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Good Luck to you in whatever years you have left. Once we leave this earth, it does not matter. The Internet is corrupt, very dishonest, and full of thieves.
 

.REBEL

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Good Luck to you in whatever years you have left. Once we leave this earth, it does not matter. The Internet is corrupt, very dishonest, and full of thieves.
Thank "YOU" for you wishing me good luck, and yes i know, the internet is loaded with cons, liars,(https://www.learning-mind.com/types-of-liars/) dishonest and full of thieves.The last, and "NEVER" will happen again, i purchased an adult hound off one of the beagle sites, based upon what that person had to say about the hound, sent money and later went and picked the hound up, yes my mistake for sending money first and not taking time to see just how good, or in the case of this hound, how bad the hound was and dishonest this owner was, any how after i got the hound home, a few days later, i took the hound and gave it away, as a pet.Lets face facts, honesty, principals and transparency does not exist in the today's world.
Let me leave you with this, God raised us from the earth, he than breathed breath into out bodies..therefore our bodies are made up of Acidic and Alkaline PH, farmers has to know and adjust the PH in the soil to produce a good crop, we need to take control of the Alkaline and Acidic PH in our bodies, but the majority never give this any thought..Most of the bad illnesses have to have acidic PH to exist, such as cancer,and many more illnesses, think about this and do some research on the PC.I am a herbalist and i can help those that have illnesses, if asked? Many have Gout, simple treatment, with facts and proof the treatment works.When we die, our bodies go back to the earth, from where it originated, either Buried or Cremated..The very best i can advise anyone is to study your bodies PH and eliminate as much of the Acidic PH as possible..
SO MOTE IT BE!!!
 
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